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11 years 2 months ago #13901
by hoort
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Bruce,
Coming back to you for the 512 orange green.The first box has the stamp NQ 09.(belonging to the dark green wheel version) Made in 1949 ? The other two boxes have no stamp.The three chassis are all different.The first has tinplate rear axle holders
and no casting lugs.The second has the same axle holders
and small casting lugs.The third (Supertoy hubs) has cast rear axle holders
and larger casting lugs.This is a second type chassis.All three have a first type cab.Kind regards,
Rob [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 512_orange_green_chassis_Forum.jpg [/img]
Coming back to you for the 512 orange green.The first box has the stamp NQ 09.(belonging to the dark green wheel version) Made in 1949 ? The other two boxes have no stamp.The three chassis are all different.The first has tinplate rear axle holders
and no casting lugs.The second has the same axle holders
and small casting lugs.The third (Supertoy hubs) has cast rear axle holders
and larger casting lugs.This is a second type chassis.All three have a first type cab.Kind regards,
Rob [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 512_orange_green_chassis_Forum.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13902
by dinkyfan
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Wonderful series of posts on various wheel configurations....I feel well out of my league,
having
only one model per most types of Dinkys.But I do have a couple of interesting wheel colors;the first is the 25 wagon,
in light blue,
with matching wheels.I bought this as NOS
from
H.Hudson Dobson in 1959,
and since it also has the later small tires,
it must have been near the end of the export life here in the states.The second one is the 25 tanker,
also with small tires,
colored wheels,
and no advertising.Bought around the same time frame.I don ' t think either of these is rare,
just not seen too often. [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 002_zpsf6833ca2.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 003_zps6feaa2eb.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 011 - 1_zpsd4db9745.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 010 - 1_zps0c628dd1.jpg [/img]
having
only one model per most types of Dinkys.But I do have a couple of interesting wheel colors;the first is the 25 wagon,
in light blue,
with matching wheels.I bought this as NOS
from
H.Hudson Dobson in 1959,
and since it also has the later small tires,
it must have been near the end of the export life here in the states.The second one is the 25 tanker,
also with small tires,
colored wheels,
and no advertising.Bought around the same time frame.I don ' t think either of these is rare,
just not seen too often. [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 002_zpsf6833ca2.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 003_zps6feaa2eb.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 011 - 1_zpsd4db9745.jpg [/img] [img] http: / / i929.photobucket.com / albums / ad133 / thardgrave / English % 20Dinky % 20small % 20commercial % 20vehicles / 010 - 1_zps0c628dd1.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13903
by hoort
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Very nice ! The tanker without the PETROL advertising is very scarce indeed.I have only seen green tankers without PETROL with black hubs (3rd type).Rob
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11 years 2 months ago #13904
by dinkycollect
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I have listed three variations of the tanker without ' PETROL '
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11 years 2 months ago #13907
by hoort
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A 22c line up this time.Colored hubs are not often found on this little model.The chocolate brown with blue hubs can be found,
but how about the cream one with red hubs ? It comes
from
the US,
so perhaps only made for export ? Rob [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 25_small_trucks.jpg [/img]
but how about the cream one with red hubs ? It comes
from
the US,
so perhaps only made for export ? Rob [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 25_small_trucks.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13915
by janwerner
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Rather a factory flaw than a true wheel variation: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_0268.jpg [/img] Nothing particular,
the no.29f / 280 Observation Coach in medium grey shade,
hubs included,
and red flashes.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_0269.jpg [/img] However,
showing a greyish green hub in front on this side ! [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_5617.jpg [/img]
And this one,
a no.40a Riley,
not as spectacular as the earlier examples posted by others,
but with not very common early post war satin black hubs (
I believe this one,
the first issued,
is the only 40 series model with these early satin black hubs
).I haven ' t seen the finely treaded pre - war / early post - war black - apparently original - tyres on other 40 series models either.Kind regards,
Jan
the no.29f / 280 Observation Coach in medium grey shade,
hubs included,
and red flashes.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_0269.jpg [/img] However,
showing a greyish green hub in front on this side ! [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_5617.jpg [/img]
And this one,
a no.40a Riley,
not as spectacular as the earlier examples posted by others,
but with not very common early post war satin black hubs (
I believe this one,
the first issued,
is the only 40 series model with these early satin black hubs
).I haven ' t seen the finely treaded pre - war / early post - war black - apparently original - tyres on other 40 series models either.Kind regards,
Jan
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11 years 2 months ago #13917
by Dinkinius
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Rob NQ09 is indeed 1949,
although the quality stamp for the other boxes may be on the outer base,
probably faded by now.What is fascinating is the example shod with Supertoy grooved hubs which could date the model to late 1951
or early 1952.Although this type with the rear axle support bracket change appearing circa 1949,
the grooved Supertoy hubs made their appearance in January 1952 on a 2nd Type Foden with Tailboard so your Type 2 could date
from
around this time - frame.Fascinating stuff ! Bruce
although the quality stamp for the other boxes may be on the outer base,
probably faded by now.What is fascinating is the example shod with Supertoy grooved hubs which could date the model to late 1951
or early 1952.Although this type with the rear axle support bracket change appearing circa 1949,
the grooved Supertoy hubs made their appearance in January 1952 on a 2nd Type Foden with Tailboard so your Type 2 could date
from
around this time - frame.Fascinating stuff ! Bruce
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11 years 2 months ago #13924
by hoort
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Jan,
Love your Observation Coach with one different wheel ! Here is the other plastic wheel surprise
after
the Snowplough: 908 Mighty Antar with Transformer.With red Supertoy,
lemon Supertoy
and lemon plastic hubs.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Antar_Transformer_Forum.jpg [/img]
Love your Observation Coach with one different wheel ! Here is the other plastic wheel surprise
after
the Snowplough: 908 Mighty Antar with Transformer.With red Supertoy,
lemon Supertoy
and lemon plastic hubs.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Antar_Transformer_Forum.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13925
by hoort
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More close up.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Antar_transformer_2.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13926
by dinkycollect
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[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 187.png [/img] This is not a variation but a flaw,
this hub is not finished.
this hub is not finished.
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11 years 2 months ago #13927
by dinkycollect
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Rob,
I knew about the yellow hubs but not about the plastic ones.They must be very rare.
I knew about the yellow hubs but not about the plastic ones.They must be very rare.
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11 years 2 months ago #13934
by hoort
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I have only seen the one I have with yellow plastics,
so I guess it is very rare.Like the production flaw on the Karmann Ghia ! Rob
so I guess it is very rare.Like the production flaw on the Karmann Ghia ! Rob
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