965 Euclid Rear Dump Truck (1955-69)

Further to my last post,
below is another example in my collection (I sold the Euclid above last year) This shows the green spot in better detail,
and confirms that all the boxes with a green spot were the last of the blue - striped boxes issued,
with the use of italics for DINKY SUPERTOYS .I have just gone back through 14 years of Vectis auctions
and the box style with the green spot is confirmed.However,
of these,
one had an incorrect model as it was in the first year of production,
having
the plain Euclid insignia
and the Type 1 chassis.This causes me some concern when unscrupulous sellers are boxing a model to achieve a better price,
no matter that the box itself is not the correct one for the model.So,
perhaps at some stage in the final months of the Euclid,
thought had been given to changing its colour,
so perhaps samples were produced
and somehow ended up in the public arena.Unfortunately,
the quality inspection stamp in my model ' s box is indecipherable,
otherwise it would give us a date ! [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 9651322___Copy.jpg [/img]

A green mystery !
Or does the green one really exist ? If boxes might have been swapped previously,
they should be inspected on rubbing traces inside (green ? ?).The only thing green I can find on my Euclids is the later green lettering,
also on the later issues with blue striped box
and italic lettering,
with windows,
red Euclid sign
and heavy duty tyres.Still,
my box of that one does not show the green spot on the side.Just as an extra two pictures of my examples,
the early one
and the later issue: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dte965_zwart_logo_IMG_4750.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dte965_raampjes_1_IMG_4751.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dte965_raampjes_IMG_4751.jpg [/img] Kind regards,
Jan

Every Euclid I have seen (with the exception of one) in a blue striped box,
italic printing
and with a green spot on one end,
has window glazing,
and the front wheels have not been reversed as per the last issue for the Euclid
and the issues for the Terex.So the green spotted boxes would have been between two dates: 13 January 1960 when glazing was added to the drawing for the Euclid
and 23 May 1963 when a notation was made to the same drawing when the front wheels were reversed with the rounded side on the inside.So at one point during those three years,
boxes were produced for a green version
and although boxes were made with the green sticker,
for some reason Meccano never proceeded with this colour change.But I wonder what became of the paint that was given to Meccano as described by Jan in an earlier post.Used on another model ? If so,
what model ?

Thanks Bruce.In fact the words of R.Mitchell are not completely clear to understand in every detail,
and certainly not which exact shades of green / yellow he is referring to.By the way,
my examples have definitely different shades of yellow.The older one is simply pale yellow,
whereas the newer version has a more vivid (slightly greenish) lemon like colour.Hard to see on my photographs,
perhaps I should make another picture of both together in bright daylight.Best regards,
Jan

Thank you Jan for you always welcome comments ! I have photographed both the Euclid
from
the first batch
and the final Terex in bright daylight,
but the different shade of yellow is not as perceptible as comparing them under artificial light,
but the colour is different.I had always noticed the difference,
particularly with the first production
having
the plain insignia on the back
and the subsequent models with the red coloured insignia.I have examined the boxes with the green spot on the end,
and none show traces of green rubbings that one would expect if the model had been swapped with a model whose colour was a definite shade of green.Best wishes,
Bruce [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_7468_800x600.jpg [/img]

Re the dark green Euclid in The Journal oct 2014 page 7. While browsing the Encyclopaedia, recently I read the following text about the Euclid. The text is not very clear and I thought that the writer had made a mistake between green and cream but seen the green Euclid in today's Journal, he may be right. Does this text explains the green Euclids real and Dinky ?

The above quote is interesting without seeing exactly what was written in Diecast Collector, as I know of 'CANARY YELLOW' but have not heard of 'canary GREEN'. Canary green with a touch of green sort of does not sound right. Has anyone looked at my previous post with the picture of both the first and last models of the 965? There is a distinct difference, more noticeable under artificial lighting.

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dinkycollect wrote: 'Re the dark green Euclid in The Journal oct 2014 page 7. While browsing the Encyclopaedia, recently I read the following text about the Euclid. The text is not very clear and I thought that the writer had made a mistake between green and cream but seen the green Euclid in today's Journal, he may be right. Does this text explains the green Euclids real and Dinky ?' I have deleted my last post and incorporated it within Jacques last post for easier reading. Further to my last post concerning the use of the description 'canary green', the following pictures are of interest, even though the subject is not a dump truck, but a Terex Bulldozer. The slide was taken on 21 June 1970, so the era is about the same as the Dinky Terex Dump Truck. A little while ago, while reading my post about 'Canary Green' I remembered having taken a slide of a greenish bulldozer at work in Port Moresby, but when I located the slide I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was a GM Terex! One thing I did notice in the quote from Jacques' encyclopedia is mention of Blackwood Hodge, the company that mixed up the colour and supplied Meccano with 45 gallon drums of the paint. If one looks carefully, below the footplate in the second picture above, we find the company name, BLACKWOOD HODGE ! The Workplace, Health and Safety chaps would have had a field day with Earthworks Papua Pty Ltd if the scene was nowadays, but that was Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea 44 years ago. The dozer appeared to have been brand-new, so maybe the roll cage etc was in another shipping container still waiting to be unpacked! Or had been lost along the way ! Although this post deals with a Terex bulldozer, it may be a little off-topic, still I thought it might be relevant, if this is the so-called 'canary green' we have heard previously !

There are two real world Euclid R15s within 20 miles of where I live, one is Green and the other Yellow as per the Dinky. The Green one attends shows throughout the summer season, the Yellow one is at a quarry and is still a working vehicle - note the tipping mechanism is more faithfull to the Dinky. The door of the green one has notice attached to it. It makes interesting reading. I live on the outskirts of Corby, this of course was a steelmaking town and 40 years ago Euclids were a common site as there were about a dozen belonging to British Steel. This was before I came to the area and I never saw them working here. Dave

I picked up this repainted example a few years ago in a batch of 50 odd dinky toys it has had an interesting colour choice applied not what I would envisage would have been applied in reality. Nonetheless it has grown on me and I haven't the heart to strip and redo it.

Cheers Dave

Following on from the discussion earlier regarding the existence, or not, of a green Dinky Euclid, I show the following box: This clearly shows a Euclid Dump Truck being loaded up with the 964 Elevator Loader. The dump truck is painted Green, I wonder if Dinky intended to change the colour?????? Dave