22a and 505 Maserati 2000 Sport (1958-1961)

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9 years 4 months ago #7730 by Jan Oldenhuis
I bought a French 22a Maseratidark red on eBay, which has not yet been delivered to me. I doubt he is completely original. The exhaust is painted silver, but I did not found silver exhaust in other same models. I think that this is not original and the exhaust through the pre owner is silver repainted and belongs to be red, but I can't confirm that in any literature. Can someone help me with this question. I add the pictures of Ebay, because I did not yet receive the model. I collect already some information, if necessary to respond to the seller. Regards, Jan Oldenhuis

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9 years 4 months ago #19017 by Jan Oldenhuis
I received the car today and made pictures of it, as well as I can do this. I am not a specialist, but I must say that the exhaust really looks like to be original silver painted from the beginning and that it has not recently done given the blurring of the silver color. I think it is very difficult to paint the exhaust silver as accurate in this case, because when you do it manual you get mostly to much paint at some places. I hope, among others, at a response from Jacques Dujardin as a specialist of French cars. Is it known if Dinky France issued Dinky 22a with a silver painted exhaust? Regards, Jan Oldenhuis






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9 years 4 months ago #19018 by janwerner
Hallo Jan, Jacques is still ill - but recovering - and off-line. May be Richard can be of help, with his extensive knowledge of variations in this field. As I am concerned, I re-checked the relevant books and sites, but I did not find an example with silver exhausts. Even the green prototype does not seem to have them. So I cannot confirm or explain. Your model is a beauty after all. I found a photo of mine, with a nice explanatory text on the side of the (crushed) box. Vriendelijke groet, Jan W


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9 years 4 months ago #19019 by johnnyangel
Jacques' Encyclopaedia cites several shades of red on this model, as well as a rare cream interior on the early issue, but there is no record of painted exhaust pipes. In any case, what a beautiful car, and model, this is!

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9 years 4 months ago #19020 by Jan Oldenhuis
Jan W and Johnny. Thanks for your contribution and I wish Jacques all the best for his recovery. Regards Jan O

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8 years 8 months ago #19862 by dinkycollect
Jan & Jan It is the first Maserati that I see with silver exhaust. I would think that this is home made superdetailing. The mask that would have been used to do this would have been too fragile the very narow space between both exhausts. Lets wait until a couple more come out to be more acurate. he very poor drawing on the boxes does not even show the exhausts. Jacques (100)

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8 years 8 months ago #19863 by Jan Oldenhuis
Jacques, thank you very much for your response. Upon closer inspection, I also think that it is self-made homework. It is also not painted accurate. Indeed. A bad drawing of J.M on the box by drawing the left side of the car without the 2 exhausts. Kind regards, Jan Oldenhuis 3-6-2017

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8 years 8 months ago #19864 by janwerner
The box illustration is not shown here yet, so I thought I'd make a scan now. Here it is. Although there are many excellent designs by Jean Mass, he also produced some remarkable exceptions like this one, sometimes with unexplicable mistakes as perspective is concerned. Kind regards, Jan W.


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8 years 7 months ago #19868 by dinkycollect
The box has been drawn from the poor wooden mock-up. Photo from 'Les Dinky Toys et Dinkysupertoys Franais' By J.M. Roulet page 101 bout the exhaust, J.M. Roulet writes : 'Le pot d'chapement n'est pas soulign en argent'. Wich in English reads : 'The exhaust silencer is not painted silver'. Page 102 of Roulet's. This confirms my thoughts. Jacques.

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8 years 7 months ago #19869 by Jan Oldenhuis
Jacques, thank you very much for this picture and your very valuable addition and explanation to this question. There is no doubt possible. This clearly confirms that the exhausts were not painted in silver.I have the Dutch translation of Jean Michel Roulet's book and unfortunately this picture and information is not in this book.Kind regards,Jan Oldenhuis 6-6-2017

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8 years 7 months ago #19871 by janwerner
This picture is not in the French (first) edition either. Only in the considerably augmented second edition - and in French only. Thanks for reminding us Jacques, kind regards Jan

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8 years 7 months ago #19873 by Jan Oldenhuis
Jan, can you add information about the ISBN number of this French second edition. And how much pages. It would be very fine if you could add a picture of this part of information out of this book. I want to buy this book but want to know sure I get the correct edition. I miss too much information outside the Dutch edition. Kind regards, Jan Oldenhuis 6-6-2017

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