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Terry,
just a little comment: 1
) your SNCF is the last version of the 32AB.2
) your ESSO is the first version of the 32C.(big wings) 3
) your Kodak is the US version.That ' s mean that this type was only manufactured for export sales.Cheers

For fun: The SNCF in the first version (look at the logo) [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_ESSO_3.jpg [/img] The Esso in the last one (concave hubs) [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_ESSO_3.jpg [/img]
And all the ESSO family [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_ESSO_3.jpg [/img]

Once again problem with the photos.I already ask if somebody can explain to me how register several photos in the same message ! still waiting for an answer.SNCF 1st version [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_SNCF_1er_type_4.jpg [/img]

ESSO last version [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_Citerne_ESSO_3.jpg [/img]

Richard --What a nice collection of Panhard Esso tankers....very nice, and you seem to have all of the varieties. I see very few of the Kodak versions come up for sale....and when they do, they are usually quite pricey. Is that your experience over there also? Below is a photo of my French Ford Truck in the SNCF livery.....the logo of this early 1950's truck looks just like your early Panhard. Terry

Hi Richard,
I am rather clumsy in that too,
and there must be a better way (which I also would like to be informed about),
but I do it by submitting the subsequent picture files one by one,
not altogether,
because then happens what happened to your (nice) picture of the various Panhard tankers.So,
submit a picture,
wait until it has been uploaded,
then press the edit button
and resume by submitting the next picture,
and so on.I hope this helps.Whoever knows a better procedure may tell,
for the benefit of us all ! Especially Dave Kaun might be able to explain better than I do.Kind regards,
Jan

Several questions have to be asked
and answered.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 32aj_a.png [/img] This is the main differences of the transfers: thicker black line surrounding the letters
and different drawing of the letter ' a '.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 32AJ_PanhardKodak_2.jpg [/img] Atlas has issued in May 2011 a copy of the US version which may be found on eBay at a lower price
and better conditions that a genuine Dinky Toys.Terry has already posted a picture of the web which is specific to the US variation.In his book of 1982,
Roulet only writes that the Kodak finish was chosen for the US because the S.N.C.F.was unknown there.This is what he thinks,
is there any evidence ? He also writes in both his books of 1982
and 2012 that the logo was applied by silk screen,
I think that this technique is un - appropriate for mass production
and that it was applied by silicone tampoo.He also writes that this model was available for a few months in 1953 but it was advertised in the 1952 catalogue as available
from
October 1952.The reason for such a short production run is unknown,
as Terry sugests it may be a licence issue.There was probably only one batch made
and when Kodak saw the wrong logo they canceeled the agrement.Note that this is only a supposition
and not a fact.Richard,
I do not know the variation of the tanker with ' big wings '.Could you please explain
and provide comparative pictures ? [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 8501_DeuxPanhard.jpg [/img] There is a fourth Panhard artic,
it is a copy with the web under the semi trailer made in Japan by Marusan Shoten Ltd.It is easyly recognisable
from
the French model bcause the spare wheel is on the other side.I hope that I have answered everybodys questions,
if not please ask again.Jacques.

Thanks for that Jacques.I wonder if this explains why it was not in the catalogue for very long.Eastman Kodak have one of the most recognisable logos in the world.My first job was seven years in the photographic trade
and I went to Kodak ' s main office in London on some training courses,
they were absolutely fanatical that their trade mark was used correctly.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Kodak.jpg [/img] The logo above was scanned
from
a 1962 leaflet
and the ' a ' is like the one used in America on the Panhard.If Dinky France used one that was not EXACTLY CORRECT Kodak would have been extremely unhappy,
they were one of the biggest companies in the world at that time
and had incredible influence.I think there was a fall - out between the two companies.Dave

Hello Jacques.I was talking about the different types of decal ' s wings of course.Here I have somme old photos.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_Titan_Esso_2.jpg [/img]

[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_Titan_Esso_3.jpg [/img]

You can also compare the letters on the rear decals [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Panhard_Titan_Esso_4.jpg [/img]

Excuse moi Richard,
je pensais aux garde boue.