622 Foden 10 ton Army truck (195464)

Richard Should you ever locate a really good example of the first issue without the ridge-lines on the cab roof but it does not have a box, do not despair, as I am sure I have an empty box tucked away, which is a completely appropriate and relevant box. Images of it are below. There is nothing like have an appropriate box for one's models, not like so many who just aim for 'a box' without considering if the one selected would have been the type or year for the model in hand. Kind regards Bruce #150 10 December 2015

Bruce, Woahhhhhhhh a WINDSCREEN and SEATS can you believe that ? Your brother must have been sorry and you must have had a jolly good x'mas. I wish you and all the other members of this forum just as good a x'mas as that one for this year. Jacques. (# 100)

Here's another update about the 10-Ton Army Truck 622 in what was probably the last version. Unless there was one in the visipaks?The box has no date stamp but I would guess about 1964 or 1965. The cab is ridged and the hook rivet is of the domed type rather than the pitted type used for the front plate. Some casting alterations are seen at the back with the step recesses deleted and ejector pin marks now sticking out as spigots and moved further down and inwards until they are even clipping the text. I do like these diorama boxes.

Hi all, nice to see the late colourful illustrated diorama box! The (first) striped lidded DINKY TOYS box lasted at least until 1 56, as this example demonstrates. In his The Binns Road Gazette Keith Harvie does not list a 622 in visipac box - admittedly, that information is 16 years old by now. Kind regards, Jan

Dinky's choice of this particular Foden prototype is not really surprising when you look at how many other unique or very low-volume subjects they chose over the years - the Airmail car, Holland Coachcraft van, Bristol 450, Mersey Tunnel Land Rover - even the 'Police Controlled Pedestrian Crossing', which I believe was unique to Liverpool! Looking at the post-war military model introductions, some of them were based on up-to-date vehicles such as the Austin Champ and K9 (water tanker), the Bedford RL, Leyland Martian (Medium Artillery Tractor) and Hippo (RAF Refueller) and the Ford Ambulance. Others, such as the Armoured Command Vehicle, Bedford QL and Morris Quad, limber and 25pdr gun were models of wartime vehicles, so the Foden DG-based cab might not have looked out of place in the range after all! BUT - as far as I know, all the remaining DGs had been sold off shortly after the war, eagerly snapped up by civilian users including GPO Telephones, haulage companies and fairground operators, whereas many of the others remained in army service considerably longer, with the possible exception of the armoured command vehicle. In answer to a previous question regarding the three ribs on the roofs of real trucks, the cabs were 'coachbuilt', that is to say they had a hardwood frame with metal panelling, and the ribs were aluminium strips which reinforced the roof panels where they joined or were screwed to the supporting framework. It has been suggested that this method of construction contributed to the failure to gain the contract - a more likely reason was that Fodens did not have the mass-production capacity of AEC or Leyland at that time. Dinky did indeed omit this detail from their civilian eight-wheelers, but other models in the range also missed out on roof details - the Leyland Octopus for instance should have some ridges across the roof towards the rear, and many British cabs of the time had a ventilator panel of some kind on the roof. I also wondered about the choice of hubs on this model, and agree that it does look nice with the grooved hubs! Kevin.

Thanks Kevin! Pat Kennett, in his The Foden Story, from farm machinery to diesel trucks (London, Patrick Stephens, 1978), shows some nice examples and comments: 'From 1940 to 1944 Fodens supplied 1,750 heavy trucks to the War Office, all DG models and most of them on three axles with a design gross weight of 19 tons'. So this predecessor of the FG, was the regular one, and used in huge numbers.

The smooth roofed 10 ton Foden with no driver , I now have 4 of these including a boxed example. The ridged roof example with no driver I have two of these, and a further oddity of a supertoys with no driver, and no tin plate for the driver to sit on was ever fitted, quality control missed this example.

Hello 'Silversandm35'[/b] Will you be adding some pictures to go with your Post? I (and no doubt many others!) would certainly like to see images of your four models of the 622 with the smooth roof. Just to add to this topic, I am adding some more images of the Foden DG in British and Canadian military service. Kind regards Bruce H. (150) 20170306/1118/1232

Here is my Code 3 version of the Foden DG using the Dinky 10-ton Army Truck. Chris.

Chris What a first-class re-construction of the Foden DG, made even better with the use of Supertoys grooved hubs. Congratulations! I wish I was blessed with your skills! Kind regards Bruce H. (150) 20172006/1123/1549

I have tried to put the pictures on and the site won't accept them because they are more than 2mb.

Ray, Email me your pictures, I will put them on for you.Congratulations for a fabulous code 3.dinkycollect@free.fr