521, 921 and 409 Bedford Articulated Lorry (1948-63)

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5 years 3 months ago #22375 by Richard
Dear Jan, Both have a reinforcement plate on the fuel tank. The one with black trailer mudguards is a Dinky Supertoys and the reinforcement is squared angles. In fact, it's a rectangle. The one with yellow trailer mudguards is a Dinky Toys and the reinforcement is round ended. Please have a look on the following photos. Kind regards Richard



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5 years 3 months ago #22376 by Jan Oldenhuis
Richard. It was indeed optical illusion for me. My question has been completely solved by your explanation and your very clear photos. Thank you very much for that.Kind regards, Jan O.

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5 years 2 weeks ago #22234 by Jan Oldenhuis
Update photo casting variations ejector marks on 6 truck bases DT Bedford Articulated Lorry in right order: From left to right - from early to later. Jan O


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5 years 1 day ago #22664 by Jan Oldenhuis
As a collector it is always interesting to compare certain castings of models. On my search for a 521 replacement without plate reinforcement on the fuel tank of the truck, I came across these sold 2 Bedford Artics on the QDT website. I was amazed at the casting differences of these 2 models. The 521 Artic with Supertoys hubs on the trailer has a fuel tank on the truck without plate reinforcement on the top, while the earlier model with ridged hubs on the trailer has a plate reinforcement on the fuel tank. The model with Supertoys hubs on the trailer was produced after the ridged hubs period on the trailer and logically should have a plate reinforcement on the tank of the truck, but it does not. It can't be a mistake on the assembly line of fitting the wrong wheels on the trailer, because the Suptertoys hubs has a wider hole and a thicker axle. They both have a Dinky Supertoys base. I would like to own such discussion models. Jan Oldenhuis, 13 October 2020.



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5 years 1 day ago #22667 by dinkycollect
Jan, This is because these two trucks have been made in different moulds. 802 228

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5 years 9 hours ago #22668 by Jan Oldenhuis
Jacques. With the truck it is indeed striking that different castings alternate and are used again later. The first type of rectangular front fenders for instance came back in the last issues. This is clearly the case and to see on added pictures with the different types of front fenders and the wheel spacers. Note also the 3 different types of front axle support. I suspect that the start of the plate reinforcement of the truck's tank occurred roughly at the same time as the transition from ridged hubs on the trailer to grooved Supertoys hubs around October 1952. The change to Supertoys hubs can be found on drawing Job No.13630 under point 3 and is dated 7-10-52 as shown in comment # 58. The change to plate reinforcement on the tank of the truck is unfortunately not mentioned on the assembly drawing Job No.12876, but undoubtedly on the cab / chassis drawing Job No. 12841 which is unfortunately not (publicly) available. Because they are different components that are produced separately from each other and then linked together, these unexpected combinations from trailer + truck can, in my opinion, arise in transition time from one casting to another and is interesting to notice and research. Jan Oldenhuis, 15 October 2020.



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4 years 11 months ago #22698 by Jan Oldenhuis
Finally I found a replacement 521 without plate reinforcement on the fuel tank and with ridged hubs. it's the same as in post # 27 with a green box. Only mine is a slightly earlier version with a small tow hook. The pencil price 5 / - on the box indicates the price of 1949. It also has a yellow color dot on one end of the box and a red control stamp on the outside of the bottom of the box. Jan Oldenhuis, 26 October 2020





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3 years 6 months ago #23661 by janwerner
After taking them out for a friend yesterday, I took a quick snapshot of these six Bedford artics before entering my display cabinet again. And a new picture of the Lorry & Tanker duo added.



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