39d Buick Viceroy Saloon (1939-50)

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5 years 8 months ago #21928 by janwerner

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And here it is, pre-war 25h on top, post-war 25h below. Pre-war 25k, with firemen, however, had a base plate right from start. The one without base plate shows the supports (front and aft) for the base plate, if in use. Kind regards, Jan

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5 years 8 months ago #21929 by johnnyangel

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A fine example, and thanks for the photos of the underside, Jan. Photos showing that of the early model are not easy to obtain.

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5 years 8 months ago #21932 by dinkycollect

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The Peugeot 402 ref. 24 K and 24 L were also issued without a base plate and gained one later on.Models which were first issued without a base plate had the name Meccano cast in. ie. Peugeot 402, streamlined fire engine, any other ? The 29d Paris bus may have been issued without a base plate but collectors are arguing about wether it has or not.

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5 years 8 months ago #21933 by Richard

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Hello boys. We have to add the racing cars reference numbers 23a (both MG versions) and 23b (Renault and Hotchkiss fench and british versions) Kind regards Richard

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5 years 8 months ago #21934 by dinkycollect

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Salut camarade This is about models which were first issued without a baseplate and on which a baseplate was added later on. The ref 23 and 23a MGs and the ref 23b Hotchkiss never hasd a baseplate..

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5 years 8 months ago #21937 by Fred7A

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it's very interesting to see that the prewar fire engine in Jan's photo has the baseplate supports on its casting but no base. Does this mean that the 25h carried on without a baseplate after the 25k with firemen had been introduced?

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5 years 8 months ago #21938 by janwerner

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It started without base plate in 1936 but from 1937 25h had a base plate too. Kind regards, Jan

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5 years 8 months ago #21942 by Fred7A

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The point I meant to make is that those little supports (which were not on early castings) presumably would not have been added before the baseplate was introduced. If the 25k appeared in 1937 with a baseplate and the 25h gained its baseplate at the same time then it is surprising to see an example with the supports cast in but with no baseplate fitted.

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5 years 8 months ago #21943 by janwerner

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I understand your point, but I cannot explain. Are examples known without the supports? See also the Emergency Vehicles >25h -thread for this. Regards, Jan

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4 years 10 months ago #22731 by janwerner

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A very nice fawn Buick Viceroy Saloon joined my maroon example the other day. The latter was the only 39d in my collection for 37 years! Kind regards, Jan

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4 years 10 months ago #22732 by dinkyfan

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Jan--A lovely example! The Buick Viceroy was my very first 39 series acquisition and still my favorite. I love those two fender mounted spare tires. I just found out a few years ago that the Viceroy name was for export models, as I had never heard of it in the US. Best regards, Terry

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4 years 6 months ago #23049 by janwerner

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Three remarkable Buicks in the (late) Pieter Soellaart collection (picture taken by Bart van den Acker in 2005).

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