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11 years 3 months ago #14256
by Dinkinius
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Continuing with my last post,
here is an interesting observation.I pulled out another 179 Studebaker President,
this one in blue with dark blue flash
and beige ridged hubs ,
and on examining one of the inner large end flaps,
I discovered that it too had an inspection stamp of 166 / 433 / 159.In my last post,
my yellow with blue side flash with aluminium turned hubs had this as its factory stamp: 766 / 333 / 159.Notice the similarity with the inspection numbers with just the first number for the first two groups different.However the blue version depicted below has beige ridged hubs of a colour very similar if not identical to those on the 174 Hudson Hornet issued the month before the President saw the light of day.Is it possible that a problem was encountered with the turned aluminium
or spun hubs,
that necessitated the use at least for the blue version of the President to be shod with 174 hubs
from
the red
and cream version prior to the model being released ? So,
based on the inspection stamp,
and assuming the blue 179 has not been swapped with another box (the yellow has stayed with me since new),
then we have two colour versions being produced in January 1959,
one version with spun hubs
and the other in blue with ridged hubs.Bruce [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1791478a_800x600.jpg [/img] The following is the 174 Hudson Hornet,
in red
and pale cream with hubs similar to the above 179 Studebaker President.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1740.jpg [/img]
here is an interesting observation.I pulled out another 179 Studebaker President,
this one in blue with dark blue flash
and beige ridged hubs ,
and on examining one of the inner large end flaps,
I discovered that it too had an inspection stamp of 166 / 433 / 159.In my last post,
my yellow with blue side flash with aluminium turned hubs had this as its factory stamp: 766 / 333 / 159.Notice the similarity with the inspection numbers with just the first number for the first two groups different.However the blue version depicted below has beige ridged hubs of a colour very similar if not identical to those on the 174 Hudson Hornet issued the month before the President saw the light of day.Is it possible that a problem was encountered with the turned aluminium
or spun hubs,
that necessitated the use at least for the blue version of the President to be shod with 174 hubs
from
the red
and cream version prior to the model being released ? So,
based on the inspection stamp,
and assuming the blue 179 has not been swapped with another box (the yellow has stayed with me since new),
then we have two colour versions being produced in January 1959,
one version with spun hubs
and the other in blue with ridged hubs.Bruce [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1791478a_800x600.jpg [/img] The following is the 174 Hudson Hornet,
in red
and pale cream with hubs similar to the above 179 Studebaker President.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1740.jpg [/img]
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11 years 3 months ago #14264
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Bruce,
Remember that in Binns road,
nothing was ever scrapped.The production of the President started at the same time as the issue of spun aluminium hubs.Any hubs of any colour left in the parts store had to be fitted before the new hubs were used.Had ridged hubs been painted for the blue president,
they would have been dark blue as the second colour on the rear wings.Some thing similar probably happened also with your all blue Bedford tipping wagon which is very rare but not unique.Too many Bedford cab - chassis may have been painted for the Pullmore
and there might be a lot of bleue paint left in the painting plant.Unpainted tipper castings may have been in stock
and were painted in the same blue to finish off the blue paint.Any thing of this kind could happen in Binns Road.Bobigny was much more strict
and made much less variations.
Remember that in Binns road,
nothing was ever scrapped.The production of the President started at the same time as the issue of spun aluminium hubs.Any hubs of any colour left in the parts store had to be fitted before the new hubs were used.Had ridged hubs been painted for the blue president,
they would have been dark blue as the second colour on the rear wings.Some thing similar probably happened also with your all blue Bedford tipping wagon which is very rare but not unique.Too many Bedford cab - chassis may have been painted for the Pullmore
and there might be a lot of bleue paint left in the painting plant.Unpainted tipper castings may have been in stock
and were painted in the same blue to finish off the blue paint.Any thing of this kind could happen in Binns Road.Bobigny was much more strict
and made much less variations.
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10 years 5 months ago #17191
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10 years 5 months ago #17194
by janwerner
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The same goes for my example (also with green colour spot). Is this a rule for this box or limited to occasional exceptions? Kind regards, Jan
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10 years 5 months ago #17214
by Richard
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Same for me ! Richard
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10 years 5 months ago #17215
by buzzer999
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I guess they are all like this, mine's the same Dave
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10 years 5 months ago #17216
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10 years 5 months ago #17217
by Dinkinius
Replied by Dinkinius on topic 132 Packard Convertible (1955-63)
Exactly - my 132 Packard is identical to the box posted by Jacques. Also confirming what Dave has stated the aura or halo surrounding the picture of one model is not unique to the 132 Packard. Here are some examples:
To be noted, the aura for the Packard Clipper does not extend around the model, but only that part of the model whose colour would clash with the yellow of the box. But then we come to the following 181 Volkswagen. With both drawings being identical, why only select one to have the aura??!!
Bearing in mind the purpose of the aura was to highlight the drawing of a model whose colour could clash with the yellow background of the box, so one has to wonder why the following model colours were not reversed with the aura.
The model in grey would have probably benefited with having the aura with the green not so, although this may very well be in the eye of the beholder. There were also quite a few boxes that neither picture panel utilized the aura to emphasis the model. Why this is so will never be known. Kind regards Bruce (150) #667 21 June 2015
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7 years 10 months ago #20551
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7 years 10 months ago #20555
by dinkyfan
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Richard-Have never seen that before! It certainly appears that the front use of the spraying mask and application of silver paint, was indeed missed. One wonders how it got past inspection! Best regards, Terry
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7 years 10 months ago #20560
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Terry For the Dinky Toys, QC inspection was done at random so not every model was inspected. I have had a 29c without silvering of the radiator and headlights. I have also seen a 24L Vespa 400 in single colour.I have listed 45 manufacturing errors which left the factory, most of them are Dinky Toys and only a few are Supertoys.
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7 years 10 months ago #20561
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