Recently I saw Michael Drivers piece on the Packard, which kind of implied that there was a version with spun hubs. I have only seen these with cast hubs, and before embarking on a search for the holy grail does anyone know of such a model?
My Packard couple aren ' t worth that amount,
even together.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_9596.jpg [/img] But I ' m glad THEY have paint on their hubs...:laugh: Regards,
Jan
Since I am an ' older ' collector,
and my focus was really on the early to mid -1950 ' s models,
I also prefer the painted hubs,
especially on those older models,
such as the Estate Wagon.On the later American cars,
introduced around 1959
or so,
I think they look more appropriate.But they are all Dinky ' s
and wonderful in any event ! ! Terry
I suspect I am a similar age to Terry as I also prefer the painted hubs.On cars such as the 189 Triumph
or 150 Rolls Royce plated is fine as that is all I have ever known.The real significant thing about painted hubs is that there are endless variations to be collected,
as evidenced on the other lovely thread on this site.Dave
Dave I think you are right.....I would guess a lot of us Dinky collectors tend to favor the look of the era we grew up with.I still remember being quite disappointed when the new editions of cars,
all 2 - tone,
and with windows came out in the late 1950 ' s.I was only about 15,
but still did not like as much as my older ones,
and still don ' t today.Just what we grew up with ! Terry
Here is the front cover of a leaflet for the Packard Clipper.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Packard_Clipper_.jpg [/img] This is
from
1953.Dave
Sorry Terry
and Dave,
I guess I must be the Odd One Out ! I grew up in the 40s
and 50s with Dinky Toys being my major diet in the playing field.When spun hubs came onto the scene with the De Soto in December 1958,
I thought they were marvelous
and I was so glad that my parents waited until the spun hub version of the 179 Studebaker President was issued before buying me one in yellow,
as I thought it looked far better than the original blue painted ridged hubs.For some reason,
I can accept both types of hubs,
but I drew the line at opening things,
although my last Dinky Toys was the 196 Holden Special,
but I could accept this model with it being Australia ' s Own Car,
as my father worked in a Holden dealership.I could even accept that being a Holden Special,
it was not painted in the correct colour scheme,
as this colour was reserved for the Holden Premier.Anyway,
by 1963 I was already working
and had put Dinky Toys to one side several years previously.Bruce
[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 179_693_Swedish_1.jpg [/img] It is difficult to say which of the Dinky Toys was fitted with concave aluminium hubs first.If we stick to the documents,
the October 1958 Meccano Magazine shows photos of the Studebaker President with concave hubs both on page 483
and the rear cover
and M.Toyman states ' aluminium wheel hubs ' in his description of the model.In fact it seems that most Presidents have been fitted with ridged hubs.The De Soto was issued before X ' mas of the same year
and does not seem to have had any ridged hubs.So the question of which was first stays un - answered.
Perhaps what I should have stated to keep things in a ' possible ' accurate manner,
is the 192 DeSoto was the first Dinky Toy to be fitted throughout its production run with aluminium spun hubs.As for the 179 Studebaker President,
it may not be quite true that most Presidents have been fitted with ridged hubs,
as most seen out here
and through various auctions have been those fitted with spun hubs.However,
what is unusual is the model to be advertised
and written about
having
' turned aluminium hubs '
or what we refer today as spun hubs,
and yet it saw a lot of production with ridged hubs.The model below with spun hubs has an inspection stamp in the box on the inside of an end flap that reads 766 / 333 / 159,
indicating that it was produced in January 1959.Perhaps the mystery whether the 179 was shod with ridged hubs until January 1959 could be ascertained by checking boxed models
and seeing what their quality date stamp reads.It is therefore quite possible that the President started its production life with ridged hubs,
(
regardless of what Mr Toyman wrote in the Meccano Magazine
) which would then make my original statement correct.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1791840_800x591.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / IMG_800x597.jpg [/img]
