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Atlas Dinky Toys UK issues
11 years 8 months ago #13055
by dinkyfan
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I know many do not like eBay
or PayPal,
but I also have had very good experiences in buying probably close to 200 Dinky ' s in the past decade.Since I live in Southern California,
and there are few to none toy sales
or shops,
I would not have anything close to the collection I have today if it weren ' t for eBay.But I also agree it is not the same as years ago,
mainly in that many fewer really good sellers are there now.To me,
it appears that about 90 %
or more of what I see is either code 3,
decent to poor re - paints,
outright junk,
or stuff like the Atlas models.Very few very nice to mint original models
from
the Golden Era to choose
from.For those of you who live on the Continent,
it is a very different story,
so it is much easier to not use eBay.Terry
or PayPal,
but I also have had very good experiences in buying probably close to 200 Dinky ' s in the past decade.Since I live in Southern California,
and there are few to none toy sales
or shops,
I would not have anything close to the collection I have today if it weren ' t for eBay.But I also agree it is not the same as years ago,
mainly in that many fewer really good sellers are there now.To me,
it appears that about 90 %
or more of what I see is either code 3,
decent to poor re - paints,
outright junk,
or stuff like the Atlas models.Very few very nice to mint original models
from
the Golden Era to choose
from.For those of you who live on the Continent,
it is a very different story,
so it is much easier to not use eBay.Terry
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11 years 8 months ago #13056
by janwerner
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I do not like all that quasi - Dinky stuff,
like especially Atlas,
to be mixed with real Dinky Toys on eBay.A lot of confusion is the result,
deliberately
or not.Indeed the Dinky Toys offered tend to be of poorer quality than,
say,
ten years ago.May be the better dealers do not want the risk to get a low price for nice trade,
as in my opinion prices for the regular good Dinkies seem to
go
down a little bit (at last).I bought in the past few years quite some very good Dinky Toys on eBay for a price the seller may not have been quite happy with.Sometimes no one bid,
except
me.One always has to be keen in order not to be cheated
or to find your real bargains,
that seem to happen more
and more (
except
for the really highest top in quality
and rarity
).Also,
on eBay the time to consider bidding for
or buying a Dinky is much longer than the time available at a swap meet.Perhaps 2 % of what I ever bought on eBay was really disappointing.I think that percentage is quite acceptable as a risk for a buyer.Regards,
Jan
like especially Atlas,
to be mixed with real Dinky Toys on eBay.A lot of confusion is the result,
deliberately
or not.Indeed the Dinky Toys offered tend to be of poorer quality than,
say,
ten years ago.May be the better dealers do not want the risk to get a low price for nice trade,
as in my opinion prices for the regular good Dinkies seem to
go
down a little bit (at last).I bought in the past few years quite some very good Dinky Toys on eBay for a price the seller may not have been quite happy with.Sometimes no one bid,
except
me.One always has to be keen in order not to be cheated
or to find your real bargains,
that seem to happen more
and more (
except
for the really highest top in quality
and rarity
).Also,
on eBay the time to consider bidding for
or buying a Dinky is much longer than the time available at a swap meet.Perhaps 2 % of what I ever bought on eBay was really disappointing.I think that percentage is quite acceptable as a risk for a buyer.Regards,
Jan
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11 years 8 months ago #13058
by dinkycollect
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I have some Atlas Dinky for sale.Is any one interested ? 24c Citro
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11 years 8 months ago #13059
by Townie54
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On the Atlas versus the real thing,
I think we all know what we would prefer,
but money is obviously a limitation
and if it gives one the opportunity to fill a gap in the collection
or collect something otherwise unaffordable,
or even which one might not buy at all
except
at these low prices then fine.On confusing the real thing hopefully DTCA members are pretty canny,
but I did question the claims in some quarters that they were exact copies.My letter in MC Oct 2011 examined the DS
and the Borgward,
the latter
having
too high a glass house by comparison (
the casting being used I believe by Atlas in another of their ranges but
having
been Dinkyfied,
and also by another budget model company Auto Classics
).There was a similar issue with the Corgi 50th Ford Consul,
where
the new casting was very different in size
and weight despite being a supposed ' replica '.Overall I like these complementary models,
having
some Dan - Toys,
some Club Dinky de France (made in the UK of course),
and some nice Atlas (eg Panhard Esso).
I think we all know what we would prefer,
but money is obviously a limitation
and if it gives one the opportunity to fill a gap in the collection
or collect something otherwise unaffordable,
or even which one might not buy at all
except
at these low prices then fine.On confusing the real thing hopefully DTCA members are pretty canny,
but I did question the claims in some quarters that they were exact copies.My letter in MC Oct 2011 examined the DS
and the Borgward,
the latter
having
too high a glass house by comparison (
the casting being used I believe by Atlas in another of their ranges but
having
been Dinkyfied,
and also by another budget model company Auto Classics
).There was a similar issue with the Corgi 50th Ford Consul,
where
the new casting was very different in size
and weight despite being a supposed ' replica '.Overall I like these complementary models,
having
some Dan - Toys,
some Club Dinky de France (made in the UK of course),
and some nice Atlas (eg Panhard Esso).
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11 years 8 months ago #13060
by buzzer999
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I have no problem with Atlas ' Dinky Toys ' as it may encourage new people into the collecting arena as they are aggressive with their publicity.However,
I would not buy an Atlas personally.
Where
I do have a problem is with unscrupulous people attempting to pass them off as the real thing,
I have seen a lot of this.It would not work with members of the DTCA because they know what they are buying.I wonder how many new
and innocent buyers have been caught out by this.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Guys_and_Ruby_Toys.jpg [/img] I am buying the lovely models made by Ruby Toys as these are different to anything Dinky made but are an absolute delight to look at.Furthermore,
it is not possible to pass them of as Dinky Toys.Dave
I would not buy an Atlas personally.
Where
I do have a problem is with unscrupulous people attempting to pass them off as the real thing,
I have seen a lot of this.It would not work with members of the DTCA because they know what they are buying.I wonder how many new
and innocent buyers have been caught out by this.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Guys_and_Ruby_Toys.jpg [/img] I am buying the lovely models made by Ruby Toys as these are different to anything Dinky made but are an absolute delight to look at.Furthermore,
it is not possible to pass them of as Dinky Toys.Dave
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11 years 8 months ago #13061
by Townie54
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Are these 1 / 48
or larger ? I like the Albion,
having
never seen one on the road,
but in the Haynes Museum.
or larger ? I like the Albion,
having
never seen one on the road,
but in the Haynes Museum.
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11 years 8 months ago #13071
by Dirk Bloem
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Gentleman
and fellow collectors Atlas Dinky toys are very apealing to the eye
and I also have some.But as mentioned by someone here there are some people the are very unscrupulous.I have been tricked on eBAY the other day.A merchant posted a picture of an original South African Dinky with its box in Afrikaans as well.I won the auction
and waited for my Dinky to arrive.Unfortunately when it came it was a Atlas Dinky
and also in the wrong colour.I can say that I was not pleased in the least sence.Again there was no picture of the base,
although the seller was asked by other if it was the real thing.I immediately contacted eBAY,
but was told that I have to take it up with PAY PAL.Please also see the attachment for a photo of the article in question.I must say that the Atlas Dinky ' s really apeal to the younger collectors.My son on 16 is always very enthusiastic when I get a new model.So the ATLAS collection is his to get,
with a gift
from
dad so often.My opinion is that is a very good starter to end up with the real thing later.Dirk Bloem 154
and fellow collectors Atlas Dinky toys are very apealing to the eye
and I also have some.But as mentioned by someone here there are some people the are very unscrupulous.I have been tricked on eBAY the other day.A merchant posted a picture of an original South African Dinky with its box in Afrikaans as well.I won the auction
and waited for my Dinky to arrive.Unfortunately when it came it was a Atlas Dinky
and also in the wrong colour.I can say that I was not pleased in the least sence.Again there was no picture of the base,
although the seller was asked by other if it was the real thing.I immediately contacted eBAY,
but was told that I have to take it up with PAY PAL.Please also see the attachment for a photo of the article in question.I must say that the Atlas Dinky ' s really apeal to the younger collectors.My son on 16 is always very enthusiastic when I get a new model.So the ATLAS collection is his to get,
with a gift
from
dad so often.My opinion is that is a very good starter to end up with the real thing later.Dirk Bloem 154
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11 years 8 months ago #13105
by buzzer999
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Hello Dirk I have been trying to reply to your e - mail about my book but the e - mail keeps bouncing straight back.Can you please e - mail me directly on earlsroad7 @hotmail.com
and I will then have your correct e - mail address.Many thanks Dave
and I will then have your correct e - mail address.Many thanks Dave
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11 years 7 months ago #13188
by Townie54
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The Atlas UK issues are now trickling through.I attach a photo showing the UK issue of the Thunderbird (blue),
with the French issue (green),
and the original.Atlas have been good enough to issue two box types being an enlarged replica of the French box,
and now an export box in English / German.I think they also issued the French Atlas issue in white.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / image -20140311.jpg [/img]
with the French issue (green),
and the original.Atlas have been good enough to issue two box types being an enlarged replica of the French box,
and now an export box in English / German.I think they also issued the French Atlas issue in white.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / image -20140311.jpg [/img]
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11 years 7 months ago #13191
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11 years 6 months ago #13290
by Townie54
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I understand forthcoming May issue of Model Collector,
out April 1st,
will include an interview with Atlas Editions manager which could be interesting.A maroon 197 has appeared,
which seems a bit daft as the green one was the first issue
and who wants two ? A 199 at a pinch.Also VW Swiss post has appeared.
out April 1st,
will include an interview with Atlas Editions manager which could be interesting.A maroon 197 has appeared,
which seems a bit daft as the green one was the first issue
and who wants two ? A 199 at a pinch.Also VW Swiss post has appeared.
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11 years 6 months ago #13321
by dinkycollect
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If you have not read the last issue of model collector received today,
here is a very short summary of Ian Fitzgerald ' s interview.Ian is the collection manager for the Dinky UK collection
here is a very short summary of Ian Fitzgerald ' s interview.Ian is the collection manager for the Dinky UK collection
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