Atlas Dinky Toys UK issues

Read in the latest Journal the proposed list of 31 issues. Disappointing but not surprising Atlas is warming over the French issues with only a handful of new castings of English Dinkys namely Mini, Bedford Van, Morris J Van, Jaguar XK120, Zephyr, Atlantic, Oxford. Not sure how they can justify French Dinky models for the UK, as only a few were marketed and available here: Thunderbird, Panhard 24c, Renault 4L (correct me if I'm wrong ) with twelve others listed eg Kapitan which were in the UK range in some shape of form. With the doubling up of issues on the vans that's still 7 entirely French models and bad luck for anyone who has been collecting the French Atlas ones (like regrets I have a few, but then again too few to mention....).

Hello townie.A number of English Dinky have already been issued in the French range: 105 TR2,
181 VW 1200,
182 Porsche,
174 Volvo 122
and 191 Dodge Royal.This must have been a test of some sort but not explained to the customers.These models will of course be re - issued in the English range
except
the Dodge for which Chrysler will not issue a licence.The Thunderbird,
Panhard 24c,
Renault 4L etc...must have been imported in Emgland a some stage,
check in the Great Book of Dinky Toys
where
the imported models are listed.You must also check the source for your list.Atlas does not usualy publish the future models although you can expect that most cars without opening parts will be issued
except
Chryslers
and Ferraris due to licence problems.There may also be a couple of special models a year which will not be included in the range
and which will be available on mail order in limited quantities.You may find that there may be some variations
or improvements between the models that you have bought
from
the French range
and those that will be issued in U.K.

I attach copies of 3 pages
from
an old Meccano Magazine showing the range of French Dinkys which were marketed in that UK.Glad to hear the Dodge may not be repeated due to Chrysler licence issues but that also means no blue / white Plymouth Plaza which I would like to have seen issued.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / _20140202.jpg [/img]

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Here is a list of models which are very likely to be issued in the English range of Atlas models.All these models have been imported to England
and have been tooled for the French range.14z Three wheel delivery van.23d Auto -
Union.Which variation ? 24kz Peugeot 402 saloon.29dz 1937 Paris bus.35az Fiat two seater saloon (Simca 5).39f Studebaker State Commander.The 24y / 540 Studebaker Commander has not been imported to U.K.518 Renault 4L.524 Panhard 24c.530 Citro

Hi all,
I notice that quite a few of these are turning up on Ebay now,
a few being only listed as ' Dinky Toys mint in box ',
with no mention that it ' s a new model.Naughty that.I ' m buying a few of each as they come along to see how they
go
at the Toyfairs.They are very good models I must say,
just hope that no one gets taken in thinking they are originals.Would have been nice to see some none original liveries too,
Chris Warr.

[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 105_TR2dessous.jpg [/img] Chris,
The Atlas models are clearly stamped Editions Atlas Made in China so if some one mistakes one for an original,
he must
go
back to school to learn reading.As far as special finishes are concerned,
there will probably be as many as in the French collection.You can expect the South African colours
and those of colour samples
and the rare variations like the Taunus POLIZEI.They may be ex range to increase the amount of models issued.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / LeGesteDuConnaisseur.jpg [/img]
And always remember ' Le geste du connaisseur ' to check that the model is marked DINKY TOYS
AND MECCANO.

True enough ! The problem is that those I ' ve seen on Ebay are very careful NOT to show the base.The old favourite slightly out of focus picture is used too,
with the caveat ' as seen in picture '.I don ' t think anybody here,
or who knows a bit about Dinky ' s would be fooled,
but a new collector might,
that was my concern.Chris Warr.

I find I am buying less
and less on E - bay as there are far too many deceitful sellers now.I have not been caught out
and don ' t want the hassle.The problem is the number of sellers is declining
and E - bay do not give a damn as long as they are getting their fees.They used to protect both buyers
and sellers but now don ' t care.I only buy now
from
sellers I know.This is a shame for the innocent newbies but both E - bay
and Paypal need to stand up
and be counted.Dave

eBay / PayPal is a roten company always at the
limit
of legality.Several actions have been taken
and won against them so they had to withdraw several of their rules.The sellaer has no protection at all the buyer has all the rights.Sellers can not even post a negative feedback against a bad buyer.Also now one can not see what is for sale in other countries.One has to subscribe to eBay in each country with various rules such as mandatory PayPal.eBay is loosing business everyday but unfortunately there is no competitor.

I have bought
and sold things on eBay worldwide
from
Tokyo to Timbuctoo,
with only 3 resolved problems in over 1000 transactions.