1452 Peugeot 504 berline (1977-1978)

This is the Peugeot 504 made in Spain (1977 - 1979) it has opening bonnet and boot but not the doors. Only one colour is known, as above, what ever this colour is. My model is as on picture 1 with DINKY TOYS written in thin caracteres. Picture 2 shows a rare model almost certainly unique in light blue on which DINKY TOYS is written in thicker letters.The question is : have the production models been made with the base plate No. 2 in the dark colour ? How is your's ?Do not mistake this 1452 for the 1415 with opening doors.Thanks for your help.Jacques.

Hi Jacques. I see that my idea is going on ! To complete your investigation, I post here under some photos with the Pilen model. The Pilen is in the middle : Here is the base plate of the Pilen model : All together : While I am writing this message and looking at the photos, I just saw THE detail which make sure that it is a dinky with its own base plate !! :cheer: : Have a look on the next photo and compare the tyres : large for the Pilen and thin for the Dinky. Kind regards

Concerning the tyres, I think that I wrote a stupidity ! If we can change the PILEN model base plate, It must be possible to change the wheels too ! Sorry for that. friendly yours Richard

dinkycollect wrote: This is the Peugeot 504 made in Spain (1977 - 1979) it has opening bonnet and boot but not the doors. Only one colour is known, as above, what ever this colour is. My model is as on picture 1 with DINKY TOYS written in thin caracteres. Picture 2 shows a rare model almost certainly unique in light blue on which DINKY TOYS is written in thicker letters. The question is : have the production models been made with the base plate No. 2 in the dark colour ? How is your's ? Do not mistake this 1452 for the 1415 with opening doors. Thanks for your help. Jacques.'[/i] Jacques Here is a photograph of the base plate of my 1452 Peugeot 504 together with a close-up of the lettering. I might be mistaken, but the base appears to be similar to your Type 2. Let me know what you think. I will check out the other one I have if I can find it! Found it - it too has the same lettering as the above image. However one thing that was very noticeable is that both models have different hubs. I never noticed that before. If of interest, I will attach photographs of them. Kind regards Bruce (150) #557

Bruce, Thank you for your information. This means that both types of base plates have been produced in quantities. It also means that one should not worry if a question does not get answered immediately, it took six months for this one but the right answer came. Great ! Jacques.

Jacques Thank you. I am slowly going through the Forum to see if I can provide any input with any questions raised before I started wielding the pen. I have resuscitated a number of old Threads in recent months, including one recently that has revived the topic! In my last post I also wrote about the two different hubs. Although you did not make any reference to this, I am attaching images of both types, the first being identical to your model: The hubs in the right image are recessed, with the inner for both types being identical. Kind regards Bruce (150) #558

Sorry Bruce, I had not noticed your reference to different hubs. Although it is a Pilen hub, it also fals into the Dinky hubs and is then the 136 th. type of Dinky Toys hubs/wheels. Who said that most Dinky wheels were the same ? Could you please post or email a large picture of the hollow type so that I can add it to the table of wheels in the Encyclopaedia ? Jacques.

No worries Jacques The images below are of the two types of hubs I mentioned. I will send you direct better images of the hubs, but thought readers of this Thread might like to see the hubs to which I referred. The photograph on the left, above is the same as you posted at the start of this Thread, and on the right, the hollow type. Kind regards Bruce (150) #559

Sorry Bruce, I meant a large picture of one of the wheels at least 300 pixels wide. Something like this.

Sorry Jacques, you misunderstood what I wrote: 'I will send you direct better images of the hubs, but thought readers of this Thread might like to see the hubs to which I referred.' This will be done in the next day or so, depending on the weather, as I use natural light for my photography. (Which is certainly not on a par with the likes of Jan and Terry to name but a few!) Kind regards Bruce (150) #560

Jacques As mentioned in my last post, I am sending you the following images in high resolution by separate email. I am including them within the limitations of this website to enable readers of this Thread to see the wheel hubs up reasonably close within the limitations of both my camera and the photographer. I did not realize just how much fluff is covering this model as it has been mostly inside its box since purchase!! :blush: My apologies to everyone! Regards Bruce (150) #564

Bruce, Many thanks for these pictures of the wheels. They add one more piece of information to the Encyclopaedia. Jacques 100