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15 years 3 months ago #11224
by Richard
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14 years 9 months ago #11310
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11 years 2 months ago #13993
by Dinkinius
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This thread has been a little quiet for some time,
so thought I would kick it off with a factory error with a 263 Superior Criterion Ambulance.Someone forgot to paint the red side stripes on this one ! [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 2631449_640x518.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 2631449c_640x480.jpg [/img]
so thought I would kick it off with a factory error with a 263 Superior Criterion Ambulance.Someone forgot to paint the red side stripes on this one ! [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 2631449_640x518.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 2631449c_640x480.jpg [/img]
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11 years 2 months ago #13995
by janwerner
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Not a real error,
but a quality problem,
mine has been redlined as weakly as this,
ever since I opened the box for the first time,
52 years ago: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dte263_IMG_4837.jpg [/img] I took this for granted,
until I spotted other examples,
which demonstrate that it should be like this: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1497_l1.jpg [/img] Lateron Meccano filled in the intermediary recess,
possibly because of these painting problems ? [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dc_dinkycriterion.jpg [/img] Regards,
Jan
but a quality problem,
mine has been redlined as weakly as this,
ever since I opened the box for the first time,
52 years ago: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dte263_IMG_4837.jpg [/img] I took this for granted,
until I spotted other examples,
which demonstrate that it should be like this: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 1497_l1.jpg [/img] Lateron Meccano filled in the intermediary recess,
possibly because of these painting problems ? [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / dc_dinkycriterion.jpg [/img] Regards,
Jan
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11 years 2 months ago #13996
by Dinkinius
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Hello Jan Quality problem,
error,
all the same ! If a wheel has been reversed,
it is an error,
and when that error was not picked up,
it is a quality problem ! The red stripe on this model has not worn off
or been rubbed off.Someone made an error which was then not detected in the quality process,
or if it was,
no doubt nobody really cared as it was just a toy.Probably the Post should not be called ' Factory Errors '.Bruce
error,
all the same ! If a wheel has been reversed,
it is an error,
and when that error was not picked up,
it is a quality problem ! The red stripe on this model has not worn off
or been rubbed off.Someone made an error which was then not detected in the quality process,
or if it was,
no doubt nobody really cared as it was just a toy.Probably the Post should not be called ' Factory Errors '.Bruce
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11 years 2 months ago #13997
by janwerner
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Sorry Bruce,
I may not have been clear in my formulation.My first line was not a comment on your post / case,
but an introduction to mine.I should have inserted a colon instead of a comma.' Not a real error,
but a quality problem: mine has been redlined as weakly as this......' In your case there is a true omission,
in mine one might discuss if there is a quality problem only.Best regards,
Jan
I may not have been clear in my formulation.My first line was not a comment on your post / case,
but an introduction to mine.I should have inserted a colon instead of a comma.' Not a real error,
but a quality problem: mine has been redlined as weakly as this......' In your case there is a true omission,
in mine one might discuss if there is a quality problem only.Best regards,
Jan
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11 years 2 months ago #13999
by Richard
And,
what do you think of my curious Studebaker ? [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / CIMG2015.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / CIMG2018.jpg [/img] So long.:
) Richard
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And,
what do you think of my curious Studebaker ? [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / CIMG2015.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / CIMG2018.jpg [/img] So long.:
) Richard
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11 years 2 months ago #14005
by starni999
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Hi Richard,
Like it ! Wonder if red hubs ran out so the green ones were ' hidden ' on the rear ? Chris Warr.
Like it ! Wonder if red hubs ran out so the green ones were ' hidden ' on the rear ? Chris Warr.
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11 years 1 month ago #14148
by dinkycollect
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Chriss,
The person who assembled this model had no choice for the position of the wheels as the front wheels are a sub - assembly made on a different position
and possibly
from
the stock.The tyres were first fitted to the hubs (there is a video as evidence for that).Then the red wheels were assembled to their axle making a sub assembly which may have gone either to the store room
or directly to the assy line.The green wheels may have been left over
from
the previous model assembled on that position
or brought
from
the store because there were not enough red wheels to finish a batch / run.In fact,
almost anything could happen in that factory which seem to have been a mess (cf.Factory of dreams by K.D.Brown).The French factory was much more strict
and produced a lot less variations of this style.
The person who assembled this model had no choice for the position of the wheels as the front wheels are a sub - assembly made on a different position
and possibly
from
the stock.The tyres were first fitted to the hubs (there is a video as evidence for that).Then the red wheels were assembled to their axle making a sub assembly which may have gone either to the store room
or directly to the assy line.The green wheels may have been left over
from
the previous model assembled on that position
or brought
from
the store because there were not enough red wheels to finish a batch / run.In fact,
almost anything could happen in that factory which seem to have been a mess (cf.Factory of dreams by K.D.Brown).The French factory was much more strict
and produced a lot less variations of this style.
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11 years 1 month ago #14396
by Dinkinius
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Gentlemen I have had my Boeing B-17 models for a number of years now, and it was only while filing the photographs of one example I realised something was not quite right. It is the National Insignia - it is facing the wrong way! Oh well, these things do happen, if one is chatting with your friend sitting beside you or opposite the conveyor belt and you get carried away!
The model above has the incorrect insignia - the one on the right (if you are using Google Chrome) has the insignia facing the correct way - towards the front, or, in the case of a real aircraft, in the direction of travel. The drawing on the box lid is how the star should be positioned. The model has not been restored. Oh by the way, if you are using Internet Explorer, the incorrect insignia is the upper photograph!! Thought I would check - and just as well, as this site does have a problem with Internet Explorer, as explained by Peter Golden a couple of years ago I think it was. Kind regards Bruce
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11 years 1 month ago #14398
by dinkycollect
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Bruce, I think that the girls at the factory cared more about their payrol and bonus for making enough Dinkys than the position of a star. Only maniacs like you, me and the other lads on this forum could raise the point. Can this be considered as a factory error. Did the Meccano staff know that the stars had to point in the direction of travel ? This should be mentioned in the assembly drawing. Has anybody got it ?
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11 years 1 month ago #14400
by Dinkinius
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Jacques As always, you are quite correct - about maniacs! Nice to see your B-17 is travelling backwards as well! I think there would have been instructions on how Insignia's would have been placed on the wings, as the box lid, or the paper insert had the drawing to show the positions of the Insignia, even though the applicators would not have had the boxes or paper insert in front of them as a guidance. The same sort of instruction would have been given with all the other tampo and transfers as these are, in most cases, shown on the factory drawings. Lucky for the ladies on the floor while handling the RAF Insignia roundels it made no difference! :laugh: :laugh: Bruce
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