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151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
15 years 1 month ago #1308
by buzzer999
151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55) was created by buzzer999
Have a look at this it is a magical 5 minutes of B&W film of 151b 6 Wheeled Wagons being driven around.
www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=79961The
British-Pathe newsreel site is incredible, you can get lost in there for hours looking at Dinky Toys or the real world vehicles, planes, ships, trains etc.Dave
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11 years 10 months ago #13218
by torb
Replied by torb on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
Hello ! Is there anyone who could tell me something about the real thing ? I mean: producer,
engine capacity,
years of production ? I could never find informations about the 151b prototype...Thanks to everybody,
Gianni
from
Rome.
engine capacity,
years of production ? I could never find informations about the 151b prototype...Thanks to everybody,
Gianni
from
Rome.
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11 years 10 months ago #13243
by buzzer999
Replied by buzzer999 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
It is generic vehicle
and not based on a specific vehicle,
Jacques Dujardin found this answer in a 1938 Meccano Magazine
and not based on a specific vehicle,
Jacques Dujardin found this answer in a 1938 Meccano Magazine
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11 years 10 months ago #13244
by torb
Replied by torb on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
I have found it is called WOB.What does it mean ?
And what about its technical specs ?
And what about its technical specs ?
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11 years 10 months ago #13246
by buzzer999
Replied by buzzer999 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
In WWII there was a Ford WOT,
this stood for War Office Transport,
WOB will be War Office B.......
Where
did you find the WOB acronym ? I may be able to find something.Dave
this stood for War Office Transport,
WOB will be War Office B.......
Where
did you find the WOB acronym ? I may be able to find something.Dave
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11 years 10 months ago #13248
by dinkyfan
Replied by dinkyfan on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
Great vintage footage.....fun to look at,
and they sure seem to resemble that Dinky model.Terry
and they sure seem to resemble that Dinky model.Terry
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11 years 10 months ago #13249
by torb
Replied by torb on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
As far as I know,
it could be a Karrier built vehicle,
equipped with a 4 cylinder Dorman engine with side valves.I have been told about the existence nowadays of a Karrier WOB,
well restored in 1992,
with number plate MT6287.
it could be a Karrier built vehicle,
equipped with a 4 cylinder Dorman engine with side valves.I have been told about the existence nowadays of a Karrier WOB,
well restored in 1992,
with number plate MT6287.
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11 years 10 months ago #13250
by buzzer999
Replied by buzzer999 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
I did reply to this thread the other day,
the151b Transport Wagon is NOT based on a Karrier.Page 105 of the February 1938 Meccano Magazine contains the following statement: ' There is no standard make of lorry used by the British Army Tank Corps.Those employed are six - wheelers,
and the Dinky Toys model (151b) incorporates their chief features ' The Army used Karrier,
Leyland,
Crossley
and other six - wheelers,
the Dinky is a mix of all these vehicles.I hope the above clarifies this situation.Dave
the151b Transport Wagon is NOT based on a Karrier.Page 105 of the February 1938 Meccano Magazine contains the following statement: ' There is no standard make of lorry used by the British Army Tank Corps.Those employed are six - wheelers,
and the Dinky Toys model (151b) incorporates their chief features ' The Army used Karrier,
Leyland,
Crossley
and other six - wheelers,
the Dinky is a mix of all these vehicles.I hope the above clarifies this situation.Dave
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11 years 10 months ago #13251
by Townie54
Replied by Townie54 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
Rather than list mine as UNKNOWN
or MIXTURE I have it down as a Leyland Rhino being I think the closest ? What with ' Leyland ' being close to Liverpool too.......
or MIXTURE I have it down as a Leyland Rhino being I think the closest ? What with ' Leyland ' being close to Liverpool too.......
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11 years 10 months ago #13278
by buzzer999
Replied by buzzer999 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
My main computer has just been away for about 10 days being fixed so I have been very restricted on what I could do on the DTCA site.Now it is fixed I can
add
images etc.A few years ago I did some considerable research on the origin of the 151b Army Wagon
and narrowed the choice down to two vehicles;these were the Leyland Terrier
and the Crossley.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Leyland_6_wheeled_Truck -20140325.jpg [/img] Here is an official Imperial War Museum photo of the Terrier which I believe is closest to the Dinky Toy.I will post an image of the Crossley later.Dave
add
images etc.A few years ago I did some considerable research on the origin of the 151b Army Wagon
and narrowed the choice down to two vehicles;these were the Leyland Terrier
and the Crossley.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Leyland_6_wheeled_Truck -20140325.jpg [/img] Here is an official Imperial War Museum photo of the Terrier which I believe is closest to the Dinky Toy.I will post an image of the Crossley later.Dave
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11 years 10 months ago #13280
by dinkyfan
Replied by dinkyfan on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
Thanks Dave....that photo sure does show at least some resemblance to the Dinky version.As we have discovered,
Meccano seemed to take lots of liberty with designs early on,
borrowing some elements
from
different vehicles into their version,
and that looks like the case here.Terry
Meccano seemed to take lots of liberty with designs early on,
borrowing some elements
from
different vehicles into their version,
and that looks like the case here.Terry
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11 years 10 months ago #13281
by buzzer999
Replied by buzzer999 on topic 151b and 620 6 wheel Covered Wagon (1937-55)
Here is the other strong candidate,
this is a Crossley: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Crossley_6_wheeled_Truck.jpg [/img] Whilst similar,
it is not as near to the Dinky as the Leyland.Like the Leyland Terrier this is also an image I bought
from
the Imperial War Museum.They have a fascinating library I have bought abot 20 images
from
them.Dave
this is a Crossley: [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Crossley_6_wheeled_Truck.jpg [/img] Whilst similar,
it is not as near to the Dinky as the Leyland.Like the Leyland Terrier this is also an image I bought
from
the Imperial War Museum.They have a fascinating library I have bought abot 20 images
from
them.Dave
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