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7 years 5 months ago #20779
by Jan Oldenhuis
Replied by Jan Oldenhuis on topic 153a and 672 Jeep (1946-55)
Jan,
you noticed that very well.Indeed,
I do not intend to collect the total width of models.I have to
limit.I have 10 glass shelves at my disposal in the display cabinet in my living room
and that ' s what I have to do with it.I
limit
myself to models that I like myself (especially 50 ' s),
but I try to collect as complete as possible a picture of the postwar production of DT models till the 60 ' s.For practical reasons I do not collect airplanes,
boats
and military models,
with the exception of the 153a Jeep,
as the first new model
after
the war with its very interesting facts.The many dark green military models would make my display case very dark
and just I try to bring as many different colors as possible into my collection.In addition,
there are models whose casting variations are so interesting that I try to collect a complete series,
such as the extremely interesting 521 Bedford Articulated Lorry
and the 965 Euclid
and Terex Rear Dump Truck.But there are more models that I personally like to have complete.I do have a limited collection,
but I have many beautiful
and interesting models to show.Of several models I can show the whole story completely
and that gives a lot of satisfaction. Note : Not all model variations of the 521 are in my display case
and there is still another Euclid variation on its way to me that I will show lateron.Kind regards,
Jan O.[img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys40H - 254Austintaxicollectionb.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys521BedfordArticulatedLorry - modelvariatieseigenverzamelinga.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys965EuclidandTerexreardumptruc.jpg [/img]
you noticed that very well.Indeed,
I do not intend to collect the total width of models.I have to
limit.I have 10 glass shelves at my disposal in the display cabinet in my living room
and that ' s what I have to do with it.I
limit
myself to models that I like myself (especially 50 ' s),
but I try to collect as complete as possible a picture of the postwar production of DT models till the 60 ' s.For practical reasons I do not collect airplanes,
boats
and military models,
with the exception of the 153a Jeep,
as the first new model
after
the war with its very interesting facts.The many dark green military models would make my display case very dark
and just I try to bring as many different colors as possible into my collection.In addition,
there are models whose casting variations are so interesting that I try to collect a complete series,
such as the extremely interesting 521 Bedford Articulated Lorry
and the 965 Euclid
and Terex Rear Dump Truck.But there are more models that I personally like to have complete.I do have a limited collection,
but I have many beautiful
and interesting models to show.Of several models I can show the whole story completely
and that gives a lot of satisfaction. Note : Not all model variations of the 521 are in my display case
and there is still another Euclid variation on its way to me that I will show lateron.Kind regards,
Jan O.[img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys40H - 254Austintaxicollectionb.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys521BedfordArticulatedLorry - modelvariatieseigenverzamelinga.jpg [/img] [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / DinkyToys965EuclidandTerexreardumptruc.jpg [/img]
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7 years 5 months ago #20781
by janwerner
Replied by janwerner on topic 153a and 672 Jeep (1946-55)
Wonderful to see these many variations,
Jan ! As an extra my 555 / 955 ' s below.The visipac still wanting (sorry for getting too much off topic here).Kind regards,
Jan W [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / dte555 - 955collectieIMG_1666.jpg [/img]
Jan ! As an extra my 555 / 955 ' s below.The visipac still wanting (sorry for getting too much off topic here).Kind regards,
Jan W [img] / images / sites / default / files / forum - images / dte555 - 955collectieIMG_1666.jpg [/img]
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7 years 3 months ago #20943
by Jan Oldenhuis
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Recently I found a variant of the 1st issue of the 153a Jeep that is not described by Keith Harvie in his Binns Road Gazette. The 1st version 1946 (without painting ring) has smooth hubs and a solid steering wheel, but I also found one with smooth hubs and open steering wheel. According to Keith Harvie the 1st version was produced for about a year. After examination I concluded that this one is 100% original (no replacements or repaint found), so I got a nice find.My 1st version with white tires have I cleaned now according received instructions and I now have 4 different 1st versions with smooth hubs: 3 with solid and 1 with open steering wheel; with white smooth, black fine tread and black smooth tires. Of the final 153a-672 USA export version (1952-1955) I now also have both axle versions: with rounded and with crimped axles and I now have a total of 9 variants. At the end I add a picture of my Jeep collection as a tribute to the Binns Road Dinky Toys factory.Jan Oldenhuis, 19 June 2018.
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7 years 3 months ago #20944
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7 years 3 months ago #20945
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7 years 3 months ago #20952
by janwerner
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A nice and surprising addition to your Jeeps army, Jan. I presume the smooth hubs version lasted even shorter than one year, as we see the ridged hubs (and open steering wheel) showing up in October 1946 already (no. 38f Jaguar, followed by no. 38e Armstrong Siddeley). It would be nice to find a hybrid smooth hubbed Frazer Nash, Sunbeam Talbot, Alvis and/or Lagonda with the same open steering wheel too. Kind regards, Jan W
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7 years 3 months ago #20961
by Jan Oldenhuis
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Jan, thank you very much for your valued addition. There is something strange going on with the smooths hubs and solid steering wheel. As far as I know, only the Jeep and Lagonda were produced from the beginning with smooth hubs and solid steering wheel. Announced in MM from April 1946 and according to MM available from September 1946. The other models such as 38f Jaguar, 38e Armstrong Siddeley and 40a Riley Saloon were added later and were in MM clearly depicted with ridged hubs. Apparently it was decided that only the Jeep and the Lagonda were fitted with smooth hubs and solid steering wheel (still stock from the war ??) until the stock was up. On the images in MM, the Jeep is shown up to and including May 1948 with smooth hubs, solid steering wheel and white ribbed tires. How can we explain this? Was there an exception made for the Jeep? Was it a mistake in the images in MM? Is there any information to find about this in the 153a Jeep Meccano drawings or elsewhere? I can not read these drawings properly.Kind regards, Jan O, 22 June 2018.
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7 years 3 months ago #20962
by janwerner
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Hello Jan, taking into consideration that the smooth hubs Jeep and Lagonda examples are relatively scarce, and that from October 1946 on all new introductions had ridged hubs, I think we may safely assume that the factory ran out of the old smooth hubs in the second half of 1946 - despite the MM and catalogues images seem to suggest the contrary. The initial image printing blocks, even for prewar items, were in use for a long time after introduction of the ridged hubs (see the 1952 US catalogue page attached, showing the Streamlined Fire Engine in pre-war guise and the Tipping Wagon even in its mid-1930s 1 type looks, and of course the Jeep itself with smooth hubs). Kind regards, Jan
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7 years 3 months ago #20963
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Jan, thank you very much for the valuable answer to my question. It is always interesting to be able to explain such things. Thanks. Kind regards, Jan O.
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7 years 2 months ago #21061
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To complete my DT Jeeps series of 6 different versions, I was still looking for the 4th version with extended/raised ejector marks at the front under the front axles. This was described by Keith Harvie in his Binns Road Gazette number 1 of January / February 1999. Unfortunately, only of this version, he did not post a picture in his Gazette and it was not easy for me to find such a version. But ... I have found one, albeit with less raised ejector marks than my 5th version, which I show here. Now I have all 6 versions and a total of 10 Jeeps. Kind regards, Jan Oldenhuis, 6 August 2018.
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7 years 2 months ago #21062
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Hello Jan, Nice find. You also may have seen that the Jeep has no painting hole. So a early one in production. John.
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