972 Coles 20 ton AEC Lorry Mounted Crane (1955-69)

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9 years 2 months ago #18842 by Richard
2) Now, both together


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9 years 2 months ago #18843 by Richard
3) the base plates


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9 years 2 months ago #18844 by Richard
4) the differences on the arrows of the cranes :



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9 years 2 months ago #18845 by Richard
These two last photos are not good. I try with 2 others Kind regards Richard



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9 years 1 month ago #18972 by Richard
So, here are the diffences on the arrows, that I noticed on my made in England Lorry mounted cranes : 1) no pulley on the latest version, at the arrow's head. 2) The arrow's head is bigger on the first version, with a different shape. 3) The spaces between the cross-bars are quite different. These three points added to the others (see above), let think that Meccano used, at least 3 moulds. That's all folks, until I receive the next one, which is on it's way Friendly yours Richard




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9 years 1 month ago #18973 by janwerner
Hi Richard, it seems you are suffering from a Lorry Mounted Crane tsunami! A beautiful example you have caught, both model and the splendid box. Kind regards, Jan

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9 years 1 month ago #18983 by micromodels
Hi all from the South Seas,Recently I received a 972 Coles Crane that was near mint but the slewing rivet had come apart. When I looked at my other 972s I found that there are two versions of the rivet. Earliest are cast as part of the plate for the base of the crane section and later this was replaced by a separate rivet. The photo also shows a 'bump' (upstand) at the end of the chassis which does not seem to have any purpose? The difference in the other raised areas is not real and all examples are the same - just a quirk of the photograph. Ron



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9 years 1 month ago #18984 by dinkyfan
Ron---That is a very nice 'fleet' of Coles 20-Ton Cranes........an impressive gathering for sure!Best regards, Terry

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9 years 1 month ago #18986 by janwerner
Hi Ron, from the North Sea, fine collection of 972's you have there! Having so many examples available, could you please help me with my initial question about the 'bumper' on top of the crane arm basis? The photo below shows the most obvious difference between the early British version and the French assembly (in front). But the various British ones seem to show differences as well. Is there any logic/chronology to be observed as this issue is concerned between the examples of your lorry mounted crane fleet? Kind regards, Jan


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9 years 1 month ago #18987 by micromodels
Hello Jan, A quick review of the 972 Coles Cranes in the photo. Left to right: 1. First version with full lattice shown on top of jib, wide jib stop (4.4mm), cast slewing rivet, no bump on rear, metal hubs, metal winder ferules 2. As 1 with blanked off lattice at top of jib, separate slewing rivet (all the remainder types have a separate rivet), narrow jib stop (2.8mm) bump on rear, metal hubs, later decals. 3. Change to plastic hubs with 'holes' on the outer perimeter, driver only, narrow jib stop, plastic winder ferules.4. As 3 but rear A frame filled in, wide (4.3mm) jib stop, plastic winder ferules. 5. As 4 but no winder ferules, wide (4.2mm) jib stop, plastic wheels without outer ring of holes. 6 As 5 but black plastic hubs, wide (4.2mm) jib stop. 7 French version with extra wide (5mm) jib stop. There is a gradual reduction in the jib stop width for the wide variety - die wear? Ron F


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9 years 1 month ago #18988 by janwerner
This is the kind of overviews we need so badly on this website! Now we only have to organize and guess about the explanations ... Thank you very much, Ron, kind regards, Jan

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9 years 1 month ago #18989 by Richard
Hi Ron and Jan. I just had a look on mine and one of my versions has a rivet which is hollow. In the middle, it's a hole and you can see the other side across it ! On the first photo, you can see a rear axle. Kind regards Richard



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