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9 years 2 months ago #18842
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9 years 2 months ago #18843
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9 years 2 months ago #18844
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9 years 2 months ago #18845
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9 years 1 month ago #18972
by Richard
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So, here are the diffences on the arrows, that I noticed on my made in England Lorry mounted cranes : 1) no pulley on the latest version, at the arrow's head. 2) The arrow's head is bigger on the first version, with a different shape. 3) The spaces between the cross-bars are quite different. These three points added to the others (see above), let think that Meccano used, at least 3 moulds. That's all folks, until I receive the next one, which is on it's way
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9 years 1 month ago #18973
by janwerner
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Hi Richard, it seems you are suffering from a Lorry Mounted Crane tsunami! A beautiful example you have caught, both model and the splendid box. Kind regards, Jan
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9 years 1 month ago #18983
by micromodels
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Hi all from the South Seas,Recently I received a 972 Coles Crane that was near mint but the slewing rivet had come apart. When I looked at my other 972s I found that there are two versions of the rivet. Earliest are cast as part of the plate for the base of the crane section and later this was replaced by a separate rivet. The photo also shows a 'bump' (upstand) at the end of the chassis which does not seem to have any purpose? The difference in the other raised areas is not real and all examples are the same - just a quirk of the photograph. Ron
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9 years 1 month ago #18984
by dinkyfan
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Ron---That is a very nice 'fleet' of Coles 20-Ton Cranes........an impressive gathering for sure!Best regards, Terry
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9 years 1 month ago #18986
by janwerner
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Hi Ron, from the North Sea, fine collection of 972's you have there! Having so many examples available, could you please help me with my initial question about the 'bumper' on top of the crane arm basis? The photo below shows the most obvious difference between the early British version and the French assembly (in front). But the various British ones seem to show differences as well. Is there any logic/chronology to be observed as this issue is concerned between the examples of your lorry mounted crane fleet? Kind regards, Jan
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9 years 1 month ago #18987
by micromodels
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Hello Jan, A quick review of the 972 Coles Cranes in the photo. Left to right: 1. First version with full lattice shown on top of jib, wide jib stop (4.4mm), cast slewing rivet, no bump on rear, metal hubs, metal winder ferules 2. As 1 with blanked off lattice at top of jib, separate slewing rivet (all the remainder types have a separate rivet), narrow jib stop (2.8mm) bump on rear, metal hubs, later decals. 3. Change to plastic hubs with 'holes' on the outer perimeter, driver only, narrow jib stop, plastic winder ferules.4. As 3 but rear A frame filled in, wide (4.3mm) jib stop, plastic winder ferules. 5. As 4 but no winder ferules, wide (4.2mm) jib stop, plastic wheels without outer ring of holes. 6 As 5 but black plastic hubs, wide (4.2mm) jib stop. 7 French version with extra wide (5mm) jib stop. There is a gradual reduction in the jib stop width for the wide variety - die wear? Ron F
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9 years 1 month ago #18988
by janwerner
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This is the kind of overviews we need so badly on this website! Now we only have to organize and guess about the explanations ... Thank you very much, Ron, kind regards, Jan
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9 years 1 month ago #18989
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