25x and 430 Commer Breakdown Lorry (1949-64)

Hello Chris It is possible your plain box's stamp could be aS850, as this is the stamp I have recorded for three other boxes. As you said, these quality control stamps are found on the underside of the base. This is also the location for the other orange covered boxes used by Meccano and the early blue covered boxes with the orange and white label until someone realized that blue stamps on a blue background are hard to see and then they started putting them on the inside under the lid. Kind regards Bruce (150) #571

Hi Bruce, Yes it could be, it's very faint, and only readable by holding it at an angle to the light. The missing 0 on the end is right on the edge of the box so has probably rubbed off. Chris Warr.

WARNING The subject of a thread should not be changed, there is a risk of loosing the whole thread. Dave Kaun is the only one who should do that. This is why EVERY new thread should be written with: reference dash official model name from the boxes or catalogues. 25x / 430 - Breakdown lorry or 25x / 430 - Breakdown lorry Commer chassis. Jacques 100

Hi all, I've managed to add a couple more since that last post 2 years ago, Still got a few to go though, the shades of brown on this one make a few good variations alone. Chris Warr.

dinkycollect wrote: 'WARNING The subject of a thread should not be changed, there is a risk of loosing the whole thread. Dave Kaun is the only one who should do that. This is why EVERY new thread should be written with: reference dash official model name from the boxes or catalogues. 25x / 430 - Breakdown lorry or 25x / 430 - Breakdown lorry Commer chassis. Jacques 100' I have not changed anything - simply combined two threads on the same subject - something the moderator, you or someone should have done ages ago. What do you want - two Threads going hand in hand on the same topic? No wonder this Forum has developed into a shambles and one has to wade through 23 pages before opening a new thread just to ensure that the topic has not been created previously. I have left the other Thread intact and unsullied. I felt, considering no one in authority with this website has done it before, asked the original creator of this Thread to change its title from Commer breakdown to 25X/430 Commer Breakdown Lorry. Simple. Amazing how some folk get their toga in a knot!! Bruce (150) #578

There is a massive amount of work being done on the new Forum by Dave Kaun, Jan Werner, John Beugels and myself. When this is completed all the stuff on the old Forum has to be moved over to the new one. As the structure will be changing significantly this will not just be a 'push of a button' Hence the old Forum is not being updated as this would duplicate some of the huge amount of work which will need to be done in the near future. This will incorporate a much more logical structure. Please bear with us during this transitional phase. Dave

Nice one Chris with the added models. The 430 is the version that has the numerous tan/light tan/light brown variations. The 25X deep brown is rather straight forward. I have found after 20 years delving into the Commer, that the vast majority of the 25X has white lettering on the back, as opposed to black lettering for the 430. There is however a version of brown with black lettering that appeared in the early 25X blue striped boxes and the last issues in the orange covered box with label. Kind regards Bruce (150) #579

buzzer999 wrote: 'There is a massive amount of work being done on the new Forum by Dave Kaun, Jan Werner, John Beugels and myself. When this is completed all the stuff on the old Forum has to be moved over to the new one. As the structure will be changing significantly this will not just be a 'push of a button' Hence the old Forum is not being updated as this would duplicate some of the huge amount of work which will need to be done in the near future. This will incorporate a much more logical structure. Please bear with us during this transitional phase. Dave' Dave I trust I have not offended you in any way, as I am only too well aware of the work you and the others are doing with the new website. Until the new website comes along, and I for one have no problem with how long it takes, I simply brought the photos from the other Thread into this Thread that would be of benefit to everyone. Apparently according to someone I have erred, even though I did not touch the other Thread. I thought the pictures on that Thread would be ideal to have in this Thread. I can easily delete my post containing the extracts from the other Thread, and everyone can then wade through countless pages to find that original Thread. Again my apologies. Kind regards Bruce (150) #580

Hi all, I remember years ago saying on the MCCH (Matchbox Collectors Community Hall) that the classic M,box collectors have it easy when setting up thread titles for each model. 75 thread titles and you're sorted! 150 if you want to split Regular from Superfast wheels, but that to do the same for Dinky would be so much work as to be virtually impossible unless it was split over several people doing so many models each. I would love to see a set of thread titles from 22a to 991 or whatever, but it's not likely, and not very user friendly either. CW.

Chris, This is how Talk Model toys was, Nigel and I started a thread for each reference. When a model had several references, there were instructions to use only the thread with the lowest reference. This is very user friendly and it was not necessary to start any more threads. Almost everything had been planed in the begining. Wait until TMT is back on line and you will see what it is like. Jacques 100

Greetings! This is my second example of the first 25x production run in grey with blue back. This image shows the other end of the box with its foreign languages, but like the opposite end, no mention of the model having been made in England. The box has the same quality control stamp as the other one several pages back. Bruce (150) #590

Bruce--A very interesting and nice color combination, along with that really neat box.