Thank ' s again to my postwoman who brought me this morning a new member of my loud speaker family.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Bedford_Fourgonette_rf.jpg [/img] Waiting for the next :cheer: Richard
You ' ve got me looking at my vans ! My 280 is pillar box red like the Morris J,
not tomatoey like Terry ' s.The reinforcement is not only visible inside but also by a discernible kink to the roof ridge;no kink visible on the blue smooth wheel photo you have found so clearly pre loudspeaker.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / image -20140429.jpg [/img]
[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / 28_RedBlackSmoothHubs.png [/img] Early post war issue.It is no use to argue about dates as we can only estimate them.Are we talking about manufacturing dates
or dates of availability.Dinky Toys were made in batches
or runs,
the largest one starting two
or three months before launching because the models had to be delivered world wide to every Meccano dealer.Most Meccano Magazines states that the models would be ' available later overseas '.This is the reason why all the dates in Dr.Force ' s book are different
from
those of most books.Force ' s dates are the dates of availability (issue) in the states,
not in Europe.More runs were made as needed
and quite a large stock was maintained at the factories.This stock might have last for several years
after
the last batch was made
and the models could be available in some shops for several years
after
the model had been deleted
from
the range
and the catalogues.So we may have a span of at least five years between the last production
and end of availability.[img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / MeccanoActu.png [/img] There are very few examples
where
Meccano published that such
and such a model would be deleted
from
the range,
but these examples exist.What does the date of publication of deletion means ? That the last batch has been made ? That the last models have left the factory store ?
or that Meccano wanted to clear up their store
and flog what ever was left ? All we can say about the post war 28 vans is that there are five variations
and two different tradeboxes.This probably means five runs,
the SADF one been off market.The type 3 vans were issued with advertissements in 1939.The type 2 were advertised for the last time in the 1938 catalogue.The 1946 price list (was there one in 1945 ?) advertised the plain type 3 van which means that P.Trench is wrong by two years.Jan ' s picture above shows two different tradeboxes: type 3a
and 3b.It is not known when exactly the rear windows were filled in.The auction houses do not often mention this in their descriptions of ' early post - war issue '.The same applies to the axle diameter.
Hi all,
Quick question,
I ' ve seen them listed,
but do Blue,
Brown,
or Green Vans come with Black Loudspeakers ? I ' ve never seen one,
but that doesn ' t mean much ! Chris Warr.
Richard --I just looked in Richardson's first book (Modelled Miniatures, etc), and it say that both fawn and brown loud speaker vans came with black speakers...but no pictures shown. Other references say only the grey one did. I haven't had a chance to look at Jacques Dinky Toys Encyclopedia, but he may list or show something there....... Terry
Chris
and Terry.I have checked my several books: one says that green
and brown have black speakers (but no photos)
and the other one says only grey (photos with only grey speakers, of course).I will look in my sales catalogues.Richard
I just checked the Talk Model Toys site for info they would have on the Loudspeaker Van,
and there are several pictures posted.They show 2 different vans with black speakers: one is light grey,
and the other is fawn.Possibly Jan
or Jacques can
add
their comments to this.Terry
Terry.Here under the photo of the complete family,
I think !:
) [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Loudspeaker_Vans.jpg [/img] I don ' t remember
where
I found this document ! Richard
The colours that I have listed are: Black speakers Grey body,
green mud guard,
black hubs.The parts between the twop speakers is also light green.Grey body
and hubs.Grey body,
black hubs.Grey body,
putty hubs.Putty body
and hubs.Putty body,
black hubs. Silver speakers Light green body black hubs.Mid Green body,
black hubs.Brown,
black hubs.Dark blue,
silver hubs.Mid blue,
light blue hubs.Mid blue,
black hubs.Mid blue,
silver hubs,
late issue with domed axles ends.I see on Richard ' s photo that there is also: Red body,
black hubs,
silver speaker.Cream body,
black hubs,
black speaker.Light green body
and hubs,
black speaker.
Richard wrote : ' Terry.Here under the photo of the complete family,
I think !:
) [img] / images / sites / default / files / old - forum - images / Loudspeaker_Vans.jpg [/img] I don ' t remember
where
I found this document ! Richard ' Cheers Gents,
Pretty much confirms what I thought,
I now have all the versions in the picture above,
except
the third
from
right which is a shade of Aqua Blue ? / Light Green ? Unless it ' s light grey / grey hubs which I have ? I ' ll post a picture later in the week when I can finally get them all together.Chris Warr.
