Plain Yellow end flaps boxes

Dear Bruce, I have not been able to locate the Dutch seller which you mentioned but there is a similar plain box on eBay at the moment.item number 361160654427 400 265 400 265

Jacques You may wish to check out Item 311563407804 currently on eBay. It is for a 197 Morris Mini Traveller, with plenty of sticky tape holding it together! Still, a plain yellow box, but unfortunately, badly photographed for the auction, although the seller is happy to help with additional information - no doubt hopeful for a bid!! The box incidentally, uses the same block printing at least with the side panels - the end flaps were not photographed. Kind regards Bruce (150)20160315/835/2130

Bruce, I have asked the seller for a better picture showing the end flaps which are probably in a poor state with scribelings etc... On this box, the words Dinky Toys on the large side are in block letters contrary to the box for the 414 tipping wagon. It does not make sens as it is post 1961 and the slant logo was used from 1957 I have searched the Vectis data base but I could not find a plain box there.

Jacques You may wish to add the 169 Studebaker Golden Hawk to your list of those packaged in a plain yellow box. The interesting thing about this box is that the model has an additional word added to its description, Studebaker Golden Hawk SPORTS with the word 'Sports' not appearing in the more common pictorial end-flap yellow box, not does the word appear in any catalogue or price list. The images below are from the eBay auction selling this box in August 2006. Bruce (150)20160324/841/2017

Bruce, Many thanks for this piece of information. Unfortunately the photos are awful, I have been able to improve them but not much. Vectis has sold a few of them but unfortunately, they have probably noticed the peculiar name with 'sports' and for their photographs they have always placed the model in front of the text rather than on the box. I have already added this box to the list and will add any other which you or other members may mention. Jacques.

Jan As I said, those awful images came from an eBay auction almost 10 years ago. Attached are a few more images of the 169 Studebaker Golden Hawk in the plain yellow end-flap box but unfortunately, each image has the model either sitting on top or in front of the box - nothing with just the box itself. Incidentally, with the last images I sent, the price on the end reads 3/5, a price that was relevant from about July 1959 to December 1960. By the way, you are probably aware of the typo errors in your original list! Kind regards Bruce (150) 20160325/842/2202

Dear Bruce, I suppose that your post above is aimed at me rather than Jan. Several photos of this plain box can be found on the Vectis site but unfortunately, Vectis do not seem to be aware of the peculiarity of this 'sports' car and they always photograph the box with the car in front of the word sports. Although it would be better to have a picture of the box without the car, it is much better when the car is on the box rather than in front. I am not aware of any typo errors in my original list ! but if you point them out to me, I will correct them and post a fresh list with your recent finds. The seller of the Mini box did not answer my email, I suppose that for some reason or other, he did not want to show the end flaps of his box. All the best Jacques (100)

Hi Jacques, another look at your initial list made me realize that not just the special 491 N.C.B. Job's Dairy but also the original 491 N.C.B. van itself was packed in this type of box (or was this what you meant in your combined '471' reference?). Although not very clear on the photo below, my example is fitted with treaded tyres, so post-1957. The typing errors Bruce is referring to must be the numbers for three vans included: 471 Nestls 480 Kodak 491 Job's Kind regards, Jan

Not correct, sorry, a quick look into my display unveils that the NCB shown has smooth tyres! Kind regards, Jan

Sorry Jacques and apologies to Jan Just one of my 'senior's moments' which unfortunately are becoming more and more frequent these days! Pity about the eBay seller not replying to your message though. Finally, do you have access to any of the older Vectis catalogues that have not been downloaded into their website? Kind regards Bruce (150) 20160328/843/0500

Jacques The 191 box is interesting is that it is different to the 169 for instance. It is almost identical to the usual yellow box with the picture on either side, except all the printing is in red although a careful comparison may show minute differences. One final point - can you delete 'Humber' from the 641 as Meccano only referred to it as the Army 1-Ton Cargo Truck.without any reference to the manufacturer. (Why the Champ was singled out as an exception is anyone's guess!) Kind regards Bruce (150) 20160328/844/0523

Jacques Further to my post above (#24) it would appear that the plain box for the 191 was basically identical to the yellow pictorial box as shown with the images below. Note the end flap has a colour spot glued to the flap. With the price of 3/5 this price was current from May 1959 when the model was released to at least June 1960. For a number of months, November and December 1960, and possibly earlier as I have no dealer order forms for July to October 1960, the 191 was unavailable for dealers to order. In February 1961, the price had increased to 3/6. I will leave it for others to come to some conclusion as to when the example below was actually issued based on the above details. Kind regards Bruce (150) 20160329/846/1315