23h, 234 and 209 Ferrari Racing Car (1953-64)

Here are my three models : CheersRichard

Hi Richard, Ah, you've made me jealous now :laugh: that triangle fronted plastic hubbed version is SO nice! I love seeing the plastic hubs on the old castings, just very HTF. Chris Warr.

From left to right: 1953:23H, mottled base-plate, yellow nose, yellow die-cast hubs 1954:234, mottled base-plate, yellow nose, yellow die-cast hubs 1958: 234, shiny base-plate, yellow nose, yellow die-cast hubs 1958:234, shiny base-plate, yellow triangle, yellow die-cast hubs 1960:234, shiny base-plate, yellow nose, spun hubs 1960:234, shiny base-plate, yellow triangle, spun hubs 1962:234, shiny base-plate, yellow triangle, blue plastic hubs 1962:234, shiny base-plate, yellow triangle, yellow plastic hubs Missing: 1958:234, shiny base-plate, yellow triangle, blue die-cast hubs The years indicated are my rough guess only. Cheers Walter

Wonderful team Walter. My hunting is not finished ! Thanks a lot to show us all the variants. Friendly yours. Richard

Walter, Has your Ferrari (the fourth from the left on your picture) a raised line around the triangle ? This model with blue ridged hubs must be very rare. Was it made before the models with yellow nose and spun concave hubs ? Were the models with triangle made in a different die than the models with yellow nose ? What a mess in Binns Road. Could you please post a picture of the base plate stamped with 23H if you have one ? All the best. Jacques DTCA 100

Hi Jacques. My Ferrari with yellow plastic hubs has a raised line around the triangle. If it can help ! Best regards Richard

Richard, Yes all the Ferraris with plastic hubs have the raised line around the triangle but is seems that the early Ferraris with triangle did not. The model I am refering to has yellow ridged hubs and seems to be an early issue. Jacques.

Jacques, My triangle Ferrari with yellow cast hubs (4th in the row) is a 234 and has raised edges around the triangle. I have not seen a triangle 23H so far. Walter

I wonder if this one has raised lines ... Kind regards, Jan

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Greetings everybody, reading recent postings prompted me to inspect some of my models - and this is to answer Jacques' question about the casting lines on the triangle-nose Ferrari. I have ten variations (all except two are boxed) from the first all-yellow nose model in a 23H box, through to the last plastic-hub version in the later light yellow box - but I do not yet have a bubble-pack example. Five are early models with full yellow nose, and five are later triangle-nose versions, of which one has yellow-painted ridged hubs, one has blue ridged hubs, one has spun alloy hubs, and two have plastic hubs - one with yellow, and one with blue. All these five have mirror-gloss bases, so date to after July 1958 (and one of the all-yellow nose versions also has a mirror-gloss base but still with yellow painted ridged hubs). Anyway, Jacques - here is the answer to your question: As you see, the model on the left is an early version but does not have the raised casting lines along the angled sides of the triangle - all my other four examples with triangle-nose do have these raised lines as per the example on the right with blue plastic hubs, so I would imagine that they were added to the die soon after the change to the triangle nose painting. Hope this answers your question Jacques! Regards to everybody, Adrian 141

Since the last Ferrari with a yellow nose has spun hubs, therefore dates from 1960 onward and has a smooth nose without lines, they must have had either two dies (with and without lines) In 1958 or they added the lines to the sole die sometimes in 1958 and used the remaining smooth-nose models for the yellow nose version until the stock was gone (in 1960?). Right? Best regards Walter